Hindu Extremism: A Threat to Hinduism Itself

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  Raj Arumugam posted 2 mnths ago

Extremism, Gregory, as your blog implies, is self-destructive in any religion; and certainly Hinduism should not go that way...



  sceptic posted 2 mnths ago

Hullo GF

In Hindu thought SHEEL - the essense of gentlemanliness is considered to be the fountainhead of all human greatness.  I can not therefore condone its absence any where, least of all here at home in India and among fellow Hindus.

Have you heard of an old saying - an eye for an eye etc.?  Well where enlightened behaviour is not the norm such things tend to become yardsticks of  instant justice.  Not good for society.

Sceptic



  GregoryFegel posted 2 mnths ago

skeptic wrote: "To teach secularism to an enlightened Hindu is like the old saying of carrying coal back to Newcatle."
    Okay skeptic, so let's be liberal and let Husain have his freedom of speech and expression. In a secular, democratic society, it might be appropriate to protest the placement of one of Husain's nudes on a postage stamp or in a public building, but ruffians attacking galleries and destroying his paintings or hauling him into court on trumped-up charges is really going too far.
     As for the Imams, I doubt that many of them visit the art website where I found Husain's 'disbeliever' quote.    -- GF



  sceptic posted 2 mnths ago

Hullo FG

To teach secularism to an enlightened Hindu is like the old saying of carrying coal back to Newcatle.

Obviously, you hold a brief for MFH and have no notion of the evil of blasphemy in Islam And Christianity.  Hindus do not engage in the usiness of safeguarding God's standing or regime.  To us art is a mix of  satyam, shivam and sundram.   Should you need any help in deciphering thses do revert.

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Mr M F Husain said (Fri Nov 21 1997 20:56 IST)
Curious: Here I would like to quote E M Foster "I don't believe in God, Oh God help me in my disbelief."

Why does he not address these sentiments to the Imams of the Muslim world?

Sceptic



  ArunKumar08 posted 2 mnths ago

GregoryFegel:
You writing lack honesty and are a mere expression of your dislike for so called “Hindu extremists”.
From your writing it is clear that you do not identify yourself a Hindu and I think Hindus are better-off without your advice.  Have you dared to advice Muslims or Christians anytime?  
It is not just the Hindu extremists, majority, including sensible non-Hindus disapprove of FMH paintings degrading Hindu religion.
Did you ask yourself why FMH is restricting his freedom of expression only to degrade Hindu religion? Is he ready to depict    Muhammad having fun with nine years old? There are nudity in European arts too, did FMH painted Jesus naked?  Do you have any answer to these questions?
You may consider it as a freedom of expression if   your neighbor displays nude portraits of your loved ones, but majority don’t.



  GregoryFegel posted 2 mnths ago

Sceptic: 
     I didn't say that I thought that Hinduism risked an imminent demise. What I said was that the Hindu extremists threaten to impose their own peculiar interpretation of Hinduism on all Hindus and on the nation of India.
     When the Imams placed a fatwa and a reward on the head of Salman Rushdie after he published the Satanic Verses, they made Moslems look like barbarians and fools in the eyes of the entire civilized world. By harassing M.F. Husain and destroying his paintings, the Hindu extremists are doing the same thing to Hinduism.
     I have read what Husain has to say about the animosity that the Hindu extremists have against his art, and it is clear that with his art he is simply expressing himself within both the Indian tradition and the modern tradition of art.
     Husain's painting of Hanuman flying through the sky holding aloft the Dronagiri mountain is immensely charming.
     Anyone who doesn't like M.F. Husain's paintings always has the option of not looking at them. No one is forcing anyone to visit a home or a gallery where Husain's paintings are displayed.
     In the quotation below, Mr. Husain describes himself as a nonbeliever, so to accuse Husain of an Islamic prejudice against Hinduism does not reflect his actual position, which seems to be that of a secularist and a progressive.  -- GF    

Mr M F Husain said (Fri Nov 21 1997 20:37 IST)
Since there are a lot of questions on the Saraswati painting this is what I have to say: Saraswati is the goddess of arts and literature and it has been depicted in Indian culture and Indian miniatures in the past in various forms. The one which I painted was with great respect and conviction, there was no intention except to create an image of Saraswati in the modern language of painting, which some people couldn't understand the nuances of artistic appeal. This was not a painting but a drawing which was done 20 years back and was not meant for exhibition or publication. 

Mr M F Husain said (Fri Nov 21 1997 20:56 IST)
Curious: Here I would like to quote E M Foster "I don't believe in God, Oh God help me in my disbelief."



  sceptic posted 2 mnths ago

Hullo GF

Your concern about Hinduism  risking imminent demise is laudable.  Since it is not a rigid body of doctrines and dogmas it is imperishable.  It is a cultural ethos that thrives in openness and renovation.

"   If Husain's name were Chakravarty or Subramanian, would he be the target of so much antipathy from some Hindus? Would the Hindu extremists be so critical of a Hindu artist who painted his own gods naked?"


You are right that precisely is the point. MF is an ouitsider, a member of a communal denomination openly inmical to Hindus, in particular, and India at large.  His actions are bound to be judged more critically.  Can he caricature Mohamed?  Can you do that?  Do you permit open abuse of your tolerance or goodness? Surely, there are other subjects for MFH to paint.

Sceptic





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